ex-foxbat

mais non! tuckson! c'etait très bien! oublie juste que le 2000 est françai et ça ira!

humm, exelentes précisions tuckson, tout cela en evitant toute subjecivité…

mais, pour moi ça reste defénitivement le mirage…

oui, et a vrai dire, je pencherai pour un su-47 arboran la meme voilure que le f-22, c'est d'ailleur ce qui est prévu au départ, d'ailleurs, je ne croi pas que mapo-mig soit mélé a la conception du pak-fa, ce contantant de developer son concurant, le mig-35 ou 37 (des 1.27 et 1.44 d'origines)

je prèfere nettement, le mig 1.27, que le s-37., quand au t-50, je le trouve bocoup tro proche du f-22, dommage!

oui, je l'avai bien compris dans ce sens. seulemùent je deteste cet avion pour ces raison…

pas fau vic, seulement, je suis plus pour utiliser le matos a des fin de dissuasion, qu'a des fin de meurtres

malheuresement, vic, le "moustique" comme tu dis, n'est en général qu'un pauvre civil qui n'avait pas demandé a etre là….

je serai de l'avi de airaizor, vu le cout des programes de conception, il y a de fortes chances pour qu'un avion soit fait pour durer un max de temps possible…

en fait, est-il vrai que les b-52 vont etre maintenu en service jusqu'en 2050???
ça tomberai un siecle après ça conception, c'est un peut comme si on volait encore aujourd'hui sur le spirit of st-Louis…

tous les avions ne veillissesnt pas si vite! regarde le f-16, le f-15 ou encore le tu-26, du haut de leur 30 ans, il sont toujours d'actualité voir au top dans certains domaine. pour le su-37, iln'y a pa a dire, c'est un exelent appareil, mais je doute que ça cellule survive au temps qui passe. taut ou tard il sera obsolète…

c'est juste tuckson, mais il faut prendre en compte l'hyper manoeuvrabilité du smt…très utile en comat tournayant…

et je doute franchemnet que le mirage 2000 meme -5 soit superieur au smt en dogfight, pas plus qu'en bvr….

voilà quelques info sur le smt:






"For reasons of cost it never came to an introduction of the MiG-29 M / MiG-33 and the development of the MiG-35 also doesn't seem to be continued. The Russian forces had committed themselfs to new versions of the Su 27 (Su 30/32/34/35) which finally were produced or at least should be produced in low numbers in form of the Su 27 PU (Su 30) and Su 27 IB (Su 34/32 FN). An introduction of the Su 27M (Su 35/37) was planned for 2003 or 2004. In 1998 one decided in favor of an economical improvement in the air forces in form of the MiG 29's SMT. This is a retrofitting of existing MiG 29 with considerable improvements. It changes the fighter plane into a real multi role fighter plane. It would primarily improve the air-to-ground ability of the forces and replace the aging MiG 27 and Su 17/20/22. Instead of the introduction of Su 35/37, perhaps the Su 27 will also be modified like the MiG 29 SMT.

The most visible feature of the SMT is the great back bulge which is substantially bigger than on the present "fatbacks". By this back bulge the internal fuel stock can be increased by 40% to 4775 kg. The upper air intake system remains, however, unchanged so that the additional 1500 kg which were won by the cessation of the upper air intakes on the MiG 29 K and M aren't used. According to MiG-MAPO there is, however, also this possibility, with larger reorganizations of course. An external retractable air refuelling probe, as already installed on the Malayan MiG 29 N, is attached besides the cockpit. It was fitted with a modern Mil-Std 1553 B data bus, as well as an Intel 486 DX-33 processor. A new navigation system integrates a laser INS with a satellite navigation system. The cockpit receives for the first time two multi function color displays and a improved "Head-up display". The workload for the pilot shall be decreased by the "HOTAS" principle.

Initially an improved N-019M "Topaz" radar the N-019MP with improved ground mapping has been planned . It is suspected that either the development of the "Zhuk" isn't finished yet or the expected performances wasn´t reached. As armament the R 27ER (Alamo C) and ET (Alamo D) as well as the R 77 and R 73 for air targets and steered and unguided weapons planned inclusing some new developments for ground targets. The MiG 29 SMT 2 was the name for a version with "Zhuk" radar and back bulge changed aerodynamically in summer 2000. The much stronger RD 133 could compensate for the higher weight with vector control later. Unlike Suchoi Mikoyan, however, doesn't favor the thrust vector control which offers advantages according to MiG only in a little area of the flight regime. The improved RD 43 later with 98.1 KN would be available (the new development RD 333 with 98 KN planned in between wasn't financed). MiG seems to prefer a higher thrust-to-weight relation for a thrust vector control. In general the MiG 29 SMT must have lost some maneuvering capability due to the reorganizations over the original versions. Overhaul material absorbing radar will be used to reduce the radar cross section. To reduce the overhaul effort an "on-condition" overhaul method (only if necessary) will be introduced. The Russian air forces intend to convert 150 of its MiG 29 to the standart of SMT and gives this program a high priority. These jets then shall remain in service until the year 2020."

oui, il faut avouer que je ne connait pas mieu que le tu-26 pour la lutte anti-navire!, l'av-mf ayant ces avions, difficile de s'en prendre au eux territorialles russes.

oui, c'est bien ce que je pensait, mais un backfire B ne peut en embarquer que trois sous le fuselage pour les missions d'attaque a courte distance. le kingfish peut etre doté d'une ogive conventionelle de 1000kg ou d'une tete nucléaire de 350 kilotonnes, le tout a mach 5, ça fait bobo quand ça atteint sa cible…