Ils vont bien nous acheter un p'tit truc. Si en plus on promet à Lula un panier de produits du terroir après la signature, il va se presser pour acheter des Rafale.
Allez je vais faire un tour.–>
Força Aérea Brasileira - Brésil
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Le President Lula a dit qu il aimait le Rafale. On saura demain… en tous cas pour les 36 premiers je pense. Puis pour le reste, on verra bien.
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On saura quoi demain? C'est demain que le résultat de la compétition FX-2 entre Gripen, Super Hornet et Rafale est annoncé?Si vis pacem parabellum! Si cette phrase veut dire qu'il faut préparer la guerre afin d'avoir la paix, elle ne signifie pas pour autant qu'il faille la faire, la guerre, surtout en mettant la paix en danger.Rafighter
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Je pense qu'ils ne vont pas encore décider pour les Rafale, ils vont sûrement prendre en gros tout le reste, mais les avions attendront. Chaque chose en son temps ?
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Pour les avions, pas avant avril.Ah que je destroye tout ! Ou pas. Sur AMN : Ciders, commandeur suprême, 10872 messages, inscrit le 02 septembre 2006, à 22 h 18
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Ceci dit comme ils ont suivi avec intérêt les rafales sur le Roosevelt, cet été, n'ont-ils pas des arrières pensées sur des rafales marine ?
Et pis comme c'est bientôt Noël, ils nous reprennent le CDG et on programme une paire de PA nucléaire français ou US -
Today Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace signed a contract with the Brazilian navy for the delivery of Penguin anti-ship missiles and associated equipment valued at appr. MNOK 140. The missiles will be deployed on the Brazilian Navy's new maritime helicopters.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?session=dae.43708606.1230054718.boogtn8AAAEAABoeRO8AAAAD&cat=3&prod=100907&modele=releaseLe Brésil, qui a lancé un appel d'offres pour la modernisation de sa chasse, devrait faire son choix à l'automne 2009. Les trois concurrents - Dassault pour le Rafale, Boeing (F18), et Saab (Gripen NG) - doivent remettre leur offre en février. Comme pour les sous-marins ou les hélicoptères, le volet transfert de technologie s'avérera déterminant. Le Congrès américain a toujours été réticent à ce sujet. A l'inverse, Paris est prêt à jouer le jeu à fond, pour le plus grand plaisir du président Lula, qui ne cache pas son intérêt pour l'avion français. Quant au Gripen de nouvelle génération, il vient de subir un camouflet avec le choix d'Oslo en faveur du JSF de Lockheed Martin. Hors armement, on évoque un contrat de 3 à 3,5 milliards d'euros pour lequel Dassault sera associé avec Embraer. Reste qu'en matière d'avions de combat, il n'y a jamais d'affaire toute faite, d'autant que l'administration Obama ne devrait pas rester inactive.
http://www.lesechos.fr/info/inter/4811923-avions-de-chasse-le-rafale-bien-place.htm
3 à 3,5 milliards € hors armement et association avec Embraer…Si vis pacem parabellum! Si cette phrase veut dire qu'il faut préparer la guerre afin d'avoir la paix, elle ne signifie pas pour autant qu'il faille la faire, la guerre, surtout en mettant la paix en danger.Rafighter -
Dassault-Embrär: Futur concurrent sérieux d'EADS & Boeing ?
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On parlera du Rafale ici quand il sera en service dans la FAB, pas avant, les mecs. Sinon, vous savez où allez.Rang, sang, race et dieux n'entrent en rien dans le partage du vice… et de la vertu. (de Cape et de Crocs, tome 1).>> N'oubliez pas de lire et de relire le Réglement du forum>> N'oubliez pas de consulter les index des sujets avant de poster les vôtres.
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Clansman a écrit
On parlera du Rafale ici quand il sera en service dans la FAB, pas avant, les mecs. Sinon, vous savez où allez.
Encore une faute de l'Ankou
N'empêche ça aurait de la gueule. Tant que c'est pas le F-18 qui gagne -
supertomcat a écrit
Encore une faute de l'Ankou
Groumph… Toi y'en a être banni.Rang, sang, race et dieux n'entrent en rien dans le partage du vice… et de la vertu. (de Cape et de Crocs, tome 1).>> N'oubliez pas de lire et de relire le Réglement du forum>> N'oubliez pas de consulter les index des sujets avant de poster les vôtres. -
Saab offers Gripen NG to Brazil
Today Saab handed over a tender for 36 Gripen Next Generation to the Brazilian Air Force Air Command. The tender is an answer to the formal Request for Proposal issued in the autumn 2008.
Gripen NG is the next generation Gripen, an enhanced version of the well established net centric warfare multirole fighter which has proven low acquisition, operation and support costs. The Gripen NG programme covers development of avionics and all major sensors including data communication, self-protection systems, weapons integration, as well as airframe and propulsion enhancements. The aircraft will have increased thrust, increased payload, and extended range.
“The Gripen NG offer is fully compliant and will be a complete solution for Brazil,” says Gripen Campaign Director for Brazil, Bengt Janér.
Generate transfer of key technology
Not only will Gripen NG provide an unbeatable industrial co-operation package, with lasting consequences for the national defence industry, such as the direct involvement in the development, production and maintenance of the platform but it will also generate transfer of key technology including access to Gripen source codes. These industrial packages will include contractually binding obligations.
The transfer of the Technology programme will also allow full involvement in future capability development supplying Brazil strategic long term national security and technology superiority.
A long term partnership
“Gripen NG will provide a long term partnership between Brazil and Sweden in a well established fighter programme that continues to develop. Gripen will maintain its position at the cutting edge of technology for the next 30-40 years”, says Saab CEO Mr. Åke Svensson.
Gripen is in service with the Swedish, Czech Republic, Hungarian and South African Air Forces. It has also been ordered by the Royal Thai Air Force. The UK Empire Test Pilots’ School (ETPS) is operating Gripen as its advanced fast jet platform for test pilots worldwide. Saab is also delivering successful industrial cooperation programs in Czech Republic, Hungary and South Africa.
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Saab is since many years active in Brazil and recently opened an office in Brasilia.
Thru the years Saab has made sales within different areas such as Ground Combat Systems, Search and Air Defence radars, Camouflage and Training equipment.
The most significant sale was the Airborne Early Warning radar systems Erieye, which are mounted on Embraer 145 aircrafts and used as a main sensor in the Brazilian SIVAM system for surveillance and protection of Amazonas.
The SIVAM project created a close cooperation with Embraer. Today Saab and Embraer have delivered SIVAM-like Erieye systems to other countries and are exploring new areas of cooperation.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/5258/
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Retour à la case départ pour le programme F-X2
Brazil F-X2 Programme: Back to Square One? Su-35 and Eurofighter back in Brazil
08:42 GMT, March 6, 2009 On 2 February, the three final contenders in the Brazilian Air Force's F-X2 competition for the procurement of 36 new-generation combat aircraft - Boeing with the F/A-18E/F, Dassault with the Rafale and Gripen International with the Gripen NG - submitted their detailed technical, financial and industrial proposals to the Air Force/Ministry of Defence joint commission that is formally in charge of the programme. The Commander of the Brazilian Air Force (FAB), Lt.Gen. Juaniti Saito is on record having stated that the winning design will be selected by June or July at the latest, with contract signature then expected by around October.
But on 5 February, the Defence Minister Nelson Jobim made a totally surprising statement during his official radio programme, 'Bom Dia, Ministro'. The Minister said: “Yesterday [4 February] I received at the Ministry a visit by a delegation of the Russian organisation Rosoboronexport, which represents Sukhoi company which offered to bring their Su-35 aircraft to Brazil for a new examination by the FAB. I said that it was certainly possible for them to bring their aircraft here, and that the FAB would evaluate it. The same will apply to the Italians who are offering the Eurofighter. That is, by July/August we will have the results of the technical options currently being assessed by the FAB, and we will then take a political decision."
On the face of it, the statement by the Minister would seem to indicate a political intervention to effectively overturn the results of the first selection by the joint commission, which did eliminate the Su-35, the Eurofighter and the F-16 and force the FAB into re-evaluating all proposals again (if Rosoboronexport and Alenia are actually allowed to re-enter the competition, Lockheed Martin would most certainly demand the same).
At the time of this writing, the official position of the Command of the FAB is that they have not been informed of any change in the programme structure and time schedule.
Apart from the perplexing implications of the Defence Minister's apparent move to interfere with an ongoing technical and financial evaluation process, any delay in the F-X2 programme risks to wreck the entire process. The FAB absolutely needs to arrive at a binding decision within the next few months, both because the impact of the global economic crisis is already being felt (Treasury has demanded for 50% of the investment portion of this year's defence budget to be freezed), and because 2010 being a presidential election year any major procurement decision will have to be postponed until a new administration takes office.
It is sobering to remember in this regard that the programme is called F-X2 because a previous F-X programme collapsed in 2005 under very similar circumstances.
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/262/
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Si je comprends bien, le Su-35 serait réintégré dans le processus, ce qui pourrait entraîner des délais supplémentaires ?Rang, sang, race et dieux n'entrent en rien dans le partage du vice… et de la vertu. (de Cape et de Crocs, tome 1).>> N'oubliez pas de lire et de relire le Réglement du forum>> N'oubliez pas de consulter les index des sujets avant de poster les vôtres.
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Russia to deliver attack helicopters to Brazil this year
13:47 | 06/ 04/ 2009
MOSCOW, April 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will start deliveries of Mi-35 Hind attack helicopters to Brazil by the end of 2009, a senior government official said on Monday.
The Russian helicopter beat off fierce competition from the Augusta A-129 Mangusta and the Eurocopter AS-665 Tiger to win a Brazilian tender last fall.
"We have recently signed a contract to deliver 12 Mi-35 helicopters to Brazil. The first deliveries will start by the end of this year or the beginning of 2010," said Alexander Fomin, deputy director of the Federal Service on Military-Technical Cooperation.
The official said the contract was worth about $150 million.
The Mi-35 Hind E is an improved export version of the famed Mi-24 attack helicopter, which combines high fire power with a troop transport capability.
Fomin also said Russia's Su-35 fighter had a good chance of winning an ongoing tender for the delivery of over 100 fighters to the Brazilian Air Force.
Brazil wants a multirole fighter to protect its national airspace as well as to monitor smugglers in the Amazon basin and guard the country's offshore oil rigs. However, Brasilia also wants the multi-billion dollar contract to reenergize the domestic defense industry through home-grown production and as much technology transfer as can be afforded.
"We are actively participating in the Brazilian tender, which has been reopened. It involves over 100 fighter planes. Russia has made a bid in the tender with its Su-35 multirole fighter. The tender has stiff requirements involving not only the sale, but also the transfer of technology. It is a key condition of the deal and Russia is ready to satisfy it," the official said.
Ca nous fait donc 12 Mil Mi-35E pour 150 millions de dollars. Par contre, Mil Mi-35 Hind E… ça ne correspond à rien.Ah que je destroye tout ! Ou pas. Sur AMN : Ciders, commandeur suprême, 10872 messages, inscrit le 02 septembre 2006, à 22 h 18
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