Al Quwwat al Jawwiya as Sa'udiya - Arabie Saoudite

  • RogCas a écrit

    Quand j'entends ce que j'entends et quand je lis ce que je lis, j'ai bien raison de penser ce que je pense.

    :pn2:

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    Mouais, en attendant, ce sont bel et bien les Typhoon qui ont été commandés.
    Et puis pour le remplacement des Tornado, les américains proposeront sûrement le JSF.
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  • Saudi Arabia picks EADS to supply three Airbus A330-based tankers
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  • US Congress notified of JDAM sale to Saudis
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  • C'est pas encore gagné…
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  • Oui ? De quoi veux-tu nous parler ?

    Ton lien renvoit à la page d'accueil… :?
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  • US Lawmakers Renew Opposition to US Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia


    (Source: Voice of America news; issued Jan. 15, 2008)



    WASHINGTON — A group of lawmakers in the U.S. House of Representatives is renewing objections to any sale of sophisticated U.S. precision-guided bombs to Saudi Arabia. 51 Democrats and one Republican have signed on so far to a resolution disapproving of the proposed transaction, which is part of a larger $20 billion military sale to Saudi Arabia and Gulf states aimed at countering threats from Iran.

    While leaders say they hope to attract support from minority Republicans across the political aisle, the signature campaign for the resolution is mostly an effort by Democrats in the House.

    The two men behind it, Florida congressmen Robert Wexler and New York representative Anthony Weiner, first signaled their intentions last year after the Bush administration communicated its plans for the military sale.

    Under provisions of a 1976 law covering arms exports, Congress may reject any large sale if there is enough backing to do so.

    Representative Weiner points to times in the past when Congress was able to block or reduce the size and scope of arms deals for Saudi Arabia, and renews assertions that Saudi Arabia has not done enough to help the U.S. with everything from oil prices to counter-terrorism efforts and Middle East peace.

    "If it is somehow to create a more stable environment in the Middle East we have seen that there could not be a more volatile time to be introducing high-technology weapons into that part of the world. If we have learned nothing about our experience in Iraq recently is that very often people we perceive as being our allies one day we arm and they turn out to be our enemies further down the road," he said.

    Congressman Wexler says that on a number of fronts, the sale of the bombs, called JDAM for Joint Direct Attack Munitions, would not be in U.S. interests. "Will this arms sale increase democracy in the Middle East, will it increase democracy in Saudi Arabia? No. Will this arms sale increase the opportunity for the advancement of human rights in Saudi Arabia [and] in the broader Middle East? No. Will this arms sale increase stability in the Middle East, in the Gulf states? No," he said.

    Wexler describes as ludicrous the suggestion that the JDAM Saudi Arabia will help increase security for Israel, in the face of an Iran the Bush administration maintains has been seeking nuclear weapons.

    The administration says steps will be taken to ensure that the weapons for Saudi Arabia would not pose a threat to Israel or weaken Israel's qualitative regional military advantage.

    Wexler objects to what he calls Bush administration attempts to couple the question of U.S. military support for Israel with arms sales to Saudi Arabia. "I am offended deeply that the administration would couple anything to do with Saudi Arabia, which is non-Democratic nation that ignores and violates the most basic elements of human rights, to Israel which is a Democratic nation, a stalwart ally of the U.S., which is a model of human rights in the region," he said.

    Congressman Weiner urges President Bush to look again at the sale, asserting that Saudi Arabia has done little to pressure Iran, and continues to lag on counter-terrorism steps. "Repeatedly, and on and on, we have seen Saudi Arabia be the source of exporting more and more terrorism. At least 50 percent of the budget of Hamas comes from Saudi Arabia and [they have] funneled more than $4 billion to finance terrorism in the territories since 2000. If the idea is that this is the face of the moderate Arab world, then simply moderate is not enough and President Bush needs to understand," he said.

    So far, the only minority member to add his signature to the Democratic-sponsored is North Carolina's Walter Jones, who has been virtually alone among Republicans in criticizing President Bush's policy in Iraq.

    The administration's formal notification to Congress of the planned sale came as President Bush visited Saudi Arabia, after a stop in Iraq, to underscore his commitment to helping to counter any efforts by Iran to destabilize the region. (ends)

    C´est sur la page d´accueil de son lien.
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  • Ah OK. C'était en réponse à ton lien concernant la vente de JDAM à Ryad.

    Merci.
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  • Saudi Arabia's Boeing F-15C/D fighters pass safety inspection
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  • C'est leur camouflage qui m'étonne. J'aurais plutôt vu des tons "sable"…
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  • C'est vrai. Ca fait presque trop américain mais est-ce que la peinture du F-15 ait des propriétés "furtive" étant donné que tout les F-15 soient dans ces tons là ?
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  • RogCas a écrit

    C'est leur camouflage qui m'étonne. J'aurais plutôt vu des tons "sable"…
    Oui et non.
    Ca traduit pour moi une confiance totale sur l'absence de menace pouvant venir du ciel.
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    RogCas a écrit

    C'est leur camouflage qui m'étonne. J'aurais plutôt vu des tons "sable"…
    Oui et non.
    Ca traduit pour moi une confiance totale sur l'absence de menace pouvant venir du ciel.

    :lol:
    Ben perso, je ne vois pas pourquoi ils auraient des camouflage "sable". Les Tornado IDS saoudiens oui (comme celui-ci 8)), car ils sont là pour des missions de bombardements, mais à l'instar des Tornado ADV (photo), les F-15S sont là pour "contrôler le ciel" (interception, supériorité aérienne, …) donc ils ont un camouflage gris-ciel basse visibilité "normal".
    Image :
    ¤ F-15 S 8)
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  • Je trouve aussi. :lol:
    Mais là au moins, dans ces conditions, on ne se pose pas la question du camouflage. :lol:
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  • Je ne vous suis pas.

    Le F-15S serait là pour remplacer les Tornado ADV ? Mais le F-15S n'est-t-il pas la version saoudienne du F-15E ? Donc, n'est-il pas destiné à remplacer les Tornado IDS ?

    Pour ce qui est de la supériorité aérienne, ils ont leurs F-15C/D…

    Le remplaçant du Tornado ADV c'est le Typhoon, non ?
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  • Effectivement, le F-15S est la version saoudienne du F-15E, mais me concernant, et c'est une erreur d'appellation, je le reconnais mais je m'en fous :lol: , j'appelle les Eagle et les Strike Eagle saoudiens les F-15S, comme pour moi, les F-15J sont les F-15 japonais, les F-15K coréens et les F-15I les israëliens, quelque soit la version.
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